1991-0411 Public Program Day 1 & Music & Kundalini awakening, Melbourne, Australia, transcribed

1991-0411 Public Program Day 1 & Music & Kundalini awakening, Melbourne, Australia, transcribed

First Public Program
Melbourne, Australia 11 April 1991 13:29
Please be seated. I think I’ll stand up and speak, would be better now. 14:41
I bow to all the seekers of truth. At the very outset we have to know that truth
is what it is. We cannot conceptualize it, we cannot change it, we cannot buy it, and
also unfortunately at this human level we cannot know it. The truth is that you are
not this body, this mind, this intellect, this ego, these conditionings, but you are
the pure spirit. The second truth is that there is a all-pervading Power of divine love,
which is very subtle and which works out all the living work. You see all these beautiful flowers here,
and we take them for granted. We never even think from where have they come, how have
they come, from a one little seed how – and so many varieties, so many types – how they
have been created and how they grow, and how a flower becomes a fruit. Look at ourselves;
look at our eyes. It’s one of the greatest cameras you could think of. Look at every
machinery that is within us, how it is working beautifully there. But we do not think about
it; we take it for granted. All this living work is done by this all-pervading
Power of divine love. Now when I say that, you need not accept it blindfolded. But I
would request you to have a scientific mind, have a scientific attitude that you keep yourself
open. Treat this as a hypothesis, and if it is proved then you have to accept it as truth,
if you are honest, because it is not only for individual emancipation but for the emancipation
of the whole world. As I have told you that truth cannot be understood
or felt at this human level because we are mental, at the most, if not emotional being,
or we are mixture of both. We are a bundle of conditionings and egos and everything,
but we are not our selves. When we say “my ego”, “my intelligence”, “my body”
– but where is this “my”? From where does this word “my” comes? This is what
is the spirit within us. You have been already explained about a mechanism
we have here … and you have been already told this kind of a mechanism exists within
us. (If you remove this one would be better, I think.) Now this mechanism does exist within
us, and is for your last breakthrough in your evolutionary process. You have become from
amoeba to a human state, but we have not yet known the absolute truth. We have not yet
known the absolute knowledge. [Microphone falls down.] All right, now can
you see that? It’s just for your seeing we are managing something! It’s all right.
But this is all within yourself, is all within yourself which is not going to fall out! So, we have this mechanism, as I told you,
for your last breakthrough. If we had known the absolute truth and if we had the absolute
knowledge, there would have been no quarrelling, no different “isms”; there would have
been no wars. But because we haven’t got that, we are separated by ignorance, and everybody
thinks “I’m right. Whatever I am doing is the correct thing and whatever I am thinking
is the correct thing.” But there is no way to judge whether it is correct or not. Like
when you say it’s a one meter long, then we have a meter, as you know, in the Museum
of Paris which is kept as one meter all the time. But that, unless and until you discover
we are living in a relative world without any absolute relativity. That’s why there
is chaos; that’s why there are problems. Most of the problems if you see are created
by human beings. These problems, if you just try to locate,
are just based because we haven’t found out the absolute knowledge. For example, if
this place is completely dark and you can’t see anyone and if you start all running, you’ll
hit someone, somebody will fall down, somebody will be beaten up, somebody might get hurt
because there is darkness, there is confusion. These are the days of the greatest confusion
that we are born in, and it’s promised that in those days of confusion only you are going
to find out the truth. That’s why there is a category of people, as William Blake
has said, are the men of God who will find themselves and they will make others the men
of God. The time has come for you all to have your
Self-realization, your self-knowledge. As a result of that you develop a new awareness.
You develop – again I say it’s a question of becoming; it is not certifying – you
develop a new awareness on your central nervous system, which we call as “collective consciousness.”
Is described by Jung very clearly. This is where you can feel your centers on your fingertips,
and you can feel the centers of other people on your fingertips. Now only thing you have
to do is to know what do they denote – this decoding has been done already – and how
to correct them. So, to correct your being physically, mentally,
emotionally and also spiritually, you have to enter inside your being – which you cannot.
For example, you are paying attention to Me, but if I say “pay attention to yourself”
you cannot. You cannot pay attention to yourself inside. So something has to happen, and this
something is the awakening of this residual power which we call as “kundalini.” It’s
a Sanskrit word: “kundal” means “the coils” and is there in three-and-a-half
coils, this energy is settled down. If this energy is awakened, just like a primule in
a seed – it’s a living process – just like a seed sprouts, this kundalini gets awakened,
passes through six centers, pierces through the last one, and you yourself feel the cool
breeze coming out of your head. And then for the first time you start feeling this cool
breeze – it’s not very cool, it’s very pleasantly cool – which is the all-pervading
Power of divine love. With this you become like a divine computer.
You can feel the centers which are in trouble within yourself. You can feel the centers
of people around. You can feel the centers of people who are far away, also the centers
of people who are dead and gone. That’s how you can know who was a realized soul who
came on this Earth, and who was a nasty fellow and who was a devil. Otherwise there is no
way of making out. For example, from India people get out of
the jail, immediately they wear these saffron-colored clothes and are in Australia: they become
big gurus. And Australians had lot of money, and they have really fed them with that. So
many of them are coming down. But not so many, because so many are exposed also, so many
are in jail, so many have died. But still, they can say that “the world is coming to
an end, and you must do this. This is happening, and you must do that”; and just frighten
you. And you think, “Oh, otherwise, you see,
how can they tell lies?” But they are thieves! They are coming from the jail direct – you
find out their bona fides: from what kind of families they come, what sort of education
they have had? But blindfolded, people go to them and get infected by them. Mostly they
are mesmerizers and they spoil your chances of your ascent. Not only that: they can give
you some diseases, they can give you some sort of a brain – you might have an effect
of your taking a drug. Anything can they do, I don’t know to what extent they can go;
because so many have come to Me, and I am really now fed up the way people are still
running after them, paying them money. It’s something like you see some people coming
out of the pub and falling down on the street, and others try to push their way inside to
get again the same way. But in spirituality you have to know that
you cannot pay. It’s a living process of living energy; it’s a living process. (Will
you take photographs afterwards? All right?) So the second thing that should happen to
you as a result of Self-realization, that you get empowered yourself. You yourself can
give realizations to others. You can find out about another person, you can give them
realization, you can cure them. You can help them in every way possible. It’s like one
enlightened light can enlighten another light. You are all ready for it, absolutely ready
to get enlightened. I don’t have to do much, you will see that – how easily you all can
get your realization. It has to be easy, it has to be sahaj, it has to be spontaneous,
because the time has come. And also this all-pervading Power has become extremely active, extremely
active, and it is working wonders everywhere. When the kundalini rises on this center, then
you reach a state which we call as thoughtless awareness – in Sanskrit it’s called as
“nirvichar samadhi.” When you watch something you just watch, you don’t think. If you
want to think you can think, but you are not bombarded by thoughts, you are not under the
control of thoughts. Then she rises above and pierces through here, and establishes
a connection properly: then you get into another kind of a higher awareness we call as “nirvikalpa
samadhi”, which is a doubtless awareness, in which you start raising the kundalini of
others, curing others, helping others, knowing such a lot of knowledge; because once this
kundalini goes into the limbic area, she enlightens these thousand petals there – that is the
thousand nerves. Many children I’ve seen who have been absolutely
very dull children now are scoring above everybody else, getting scholarships. We have some boys
who have done their engineering or chartered accountancy and all this thing in very, very
record time; they have records. They always stand first and they are doing very well in
their education, but despite all that they are extremely humble and obedient. They respect
their teachers, they respect everyone; because the new virtue which has come in them is the
respect, to respect others, which we have lost long time back. The second thing that happens to a person
is this: that you become absolutely free. Of course, in the beginning also I respect
your freedom. I cannot force Self-realization on you – you have to ask for it. Otherwise,
I cannot force it on you. But when you get your Self-realization you become really free,
in the sense that you are able to be free. Like we think we are free, but we have addictions,
we are slaves to so many things, we cannot control ourselves; so we are not free. But
when you become a self-realized person all such things which dominate us – whether
it’s addiction, alcoholism, any habit, any such thing, tempers, or too much interest
in wrong things – all drops out and you become really a able person: absolutely you
have the ability to be enjoying your freedom and your virtues. Then it happens that you
start seeing everything, as I told you, and not getting into thoughts. The human nature is such that whatever you
see, you react. But after getting Self-realization you do not react, and your mind is thoughtless.
It’s like a lake which has no ripples on it, and all that is created around that lake
is reflected inside. In the same way when you watch something, you just watch it. Now
I watch these flowers: I’m just watching, and all the joy that the Creator has put it
in it, it doesn’t come to Me as words but as joy itself, and it starts pouring on Me
and it soothes Me down. You become a person without tension, because
tension comes to you through thoughts. But thoughts are coming from the past or from
the future, and they throng your head and give you this tension. When the kundalini
rises she comes in between two thoughts, so the future and past – the kundalini is in
the center, that is, in the present. So you just stand in the present, and when you are
in the present there is no tension in your mind. These days there’s a big trouble people
are having of tensions, blood pressures and all kinds of things, which are absolutely
there because this window has not yet opened out. Once it has opened out everything goes
away, and you are extremely a relaxed person. You also reduce at least ten years of your
age. As you know, I am sixty-eight years of age and I am travelling every third or fourth
day all over the world. So you get very dynamic and you get such a lot of energy within you.
At the same time you are very compassionate, you are very considerate, and you are extremely
wise. In every way you are helped: you are helped in your business, you are helped in
your work, you are helped in your relationship with, in your family, with others, and the
whole thing becomes like a beautiful drama you are playing. I’m telling, all these things sound very
fantastic to you, and should find – because you might say “we have never seen such angels
before.” But there is a chance for all of you to become that. Supposing you take a television
into a remote village of India where they have never seen a television, and tell them
that “you can see pictures from all over the world inside this.” They’ll say, “What, this box? Useless
thing – how can it be?” But when you put it to the mains, then they see the miracles
of it. In the same way when you are put it, you are put to the mains you start seeing
the miracles of your being. Then you understand how glorified you are, how beautiful you are,
and what is the purpose of your life. There’s no end to this knowledge. For example,
in here so many lights I see here, but to put them on there might be only one switch
and you can put on all the lights. But supposing I have to tell you all the history, how it
came and how the electricity came, and then how it was brought in Melbourne and how it
was fixed and everything, it’s quite boring. So the best thing is just to put on the light
first. So I would request you, you’d better have your Self-realization first and then
understand, because it’s a very subtle subject and I don’t know how many thousand lectures
I have given only in English language. There are many other languages I speak, but only
in English language I don’t know how many lectures I have given, and every time they
say, “Mother, every time You say something new.” I am giving you thus a introduction
to Sahaja Yoga. Now, once you get your realization you have
to know it works on collectivity. It’s not that you go home and say, “All right, Mother,
I am meditating at home.” It would be like a nail cut out of the body. You don’t have
to pay for anything, but you have to give some time for your Self-realization and you
have to come to the collective. Luckily in Melbourne we have wonderful people who have
achieved great heights in Sahaja Yoga. They are extremely humble, they are extremely beautiful
people, and I’m sure they’ll help you to achieve the same heights as they have achieved. This is what we have to get. We have to emancipate
the human beings to solve all our problems, to enter into the Kingdom of God. This has
been promised, and this promise has to be fulfilled. Of course, before I go ahead with
the process of Self-realization which will take ten minutes only, I would request you
to ask Me questions. But ask relevant questions, questions which show your curiosity to get
your realization, because I’m not here for any votes, nor am I here for any money. I
am here to give you your own key of your own treasures. So accordingly, please ask Me questions.
I’ll be very thankful to you. May God bless you. [Question: He says he thinks he is reaching
that stage, but could You tell him the symptoms?] Yes. We’ll tell him. You see, first what
happens, that you start feeling the cool breeze out of your head. Sometimes you might get
hot also, hot breeze coming out; then you start feeling the cool breeze all around it.
Then you become aware of it and you work it out. Then you give realizations to others.
All these things happen, and you become extremely peaceful, loving, affectionate, and a righteous
person – you become. It’s not like following any religion as such, because when we follow
a religion we can do, we can commit any mistakes; any sins we can commit. But Sahaja Yoga is
such that religion is born within you – like here, as we have got eight valencies within
us, ten valencies within us, and these ten valencies are in this green part: when they’re
awakened, you become religious. You become. You are not to be told, you just become. I
don’t have to tell you “don’t do this” – I never say that. It just happens, because
you see in the light what is right and what is wrong. [Question: What is God, for You, and is God
a separate entity?] Ya, He is. He is, and God for Me is the one
who is witnessing everything. But He has His Power which is the Primordial Mother, which
is the Holy Ghost, which is reflected within you as the kundalini, and God is reflected
within you as the spirit in your heart. At this point they meet, and that’s how you
get your Self-realization. But such a wide subject it is, so you have to have more patience
for such a wider subject. [Question: Will there ever come a time when
the negative force in society will cease to exist?] Yes, of course, if you help us. [Question: Which Indian saints or masters
do You acknowledge, or did any of them inspire You in Your cause?] Yah, all of them were there, and there are
some more but they have all disappeared in the Himalayas, because they say that “these
human beings are absolutely dullards and they won’t listen to us; You try Your luck!”
We have so many saints in India who are no more, who really came down to the masses.
The first one who really ventured to talk to masses was Gyaneshwara, Saint Gyaneshwara. About kundalini it was written in so many
Sanskrit books, so many of them, you see, but never in a local or a vernacular language.
So Gyaneshwara in the twelfth century first time talked about it. He took the permission
of his master – because it was a tradition to have one master and one disciple – and
he wrote it about it in his book first of all. And today the time has come for you to
get en masse realization. There are so many saints that I really, in this thing I cannot
tell you, but there was Ramadasa, there is Nanaka, there is Kabira – so many of them
– Adi Shankaracharya; in India, as you ask. But outside also: William Blake was another
saint. [Question: He says that T.M. talks about Self-realization.
What is the difference between their talking about Self-realization and You talking about
it?] Now they have started. They never talked about
it before, and they are just talking. If I have to tell you everything frankly about
T.M., it’s better that you listen to it. I’m not afraid of them. I had the head of
their siddha – what they call the “flying academy” – head of that, the director,
one Mr. Peter Pearce, his wife, his deputy director and his child, all suffering from
epilepsy, came to Me. Luckily My husband was not at home those days, so I kept them in
My house and treated them, and got them well. He’s about to write a book about it. Now I asked him what do they do. So he told
Me – because he was in it – he said that they give three mantras, first stage they
give three mantras, and these three mantras, they were to pay three thousand pounds. Now
these three mantras, out of them any one could be yours. One was “inga”, another was
“pinga”, another was “tinga”. Now any Indian would laugh at it because they
know there is, these are not Sanskrit words. “Inga” means the scorpion bite; the “pinga”
means a person when he gets possessed, he goes round, is called “pinga” – it is
also in vernacular language, not in Sanskrit – and “tinga” means showing like this.
And they paid three thousand – done! It’s all marketing. People are so stupid! I mean, I have a disciple who came to Me from
T.M., her sister was in lunatic asylum. We had to work so hard on her, but now she’s
cured; and this barrister girl, poor thing, she suffered so much. So many people have
gone into recluses. She told Me that she had to go to Switzerland, pay six thousand pounds
for a course of seven days. And the first day they were given – this is for flying
in the air. Now this is also another stupidity, to go for flying in the air, half-way through
– what is the need? As it is, today there was such a lot of jam; you see, if you start
flying like this, then no car can move! What is the need for you to fly at three feet?
But this is stupidity, and for that stupidity she paid six thousand pounds. And she had
to go to Switzerland, and she said, “No arrangements for us, nothing. We were to live
in a big hall, and they asked us that we have to jump on, what you call these foam mattresses,”
and she broke her bottom, and many broke their bottom. And they were asked, they were asked
to give. And they were given to drink the water that boiled the potatoes for six days,
and the seventh day they were given the rind, and the fifth day the potatoes. For that they
paid six thousand pounds! She’s a daughter of a very, very rich man. But this is what it is, if you have surplus
money there are people to befool you. There’s a market, it’s all marketing. Now they are
marketing what you call ayurveda. What is there to market ayurveda? You can buy things
directly from India; you don’t need a guru for that. And most of the ayurveda cannot
be practiced abroad because these are made out of fresh leaves. But if you have to treat
yourself with ayurveda you can go to India. But Sahaja Yoga is a direct method that you
can cure yourself by, with your kundalini awakening. There are two doctors in Delhi
University who have got their M.D. on Sahaja Yoga, which proved that Sahaja Yoga can cure
many incurable diseases. We have cured. Not that I have cured, but people are cured through
Sahaja Yoga. Diseases like blood cancer, myelitis, so many diseases have been cured, and there
are so many that I really do not know how to even keep account. We cannot keep account
of them. So this is what T.M. is. Whatever they talk,
they should prove it. Have you met any T.M. fellow who can give realizations to others,
or who can talk like Stephen? There is no modus operandi. There is no modus operandi
they can describe – nothing. On the contrary, if you are a doctor you can find them out
just like that. Once in a lecture there was a Sahaja yogi, who is now head of the Psychology
Department in Amman – he was there in their meetings – and they said that when you take
the brain scan, you see the theta waves. Immediately he got up, he said, “But you get it with
epilepsy; you get it with epilepsy.” And they were shocked. They just got round
him and said, “Doctor, will you come and have some tea with us?” and this. Then he
went there and they were offering him money and all that. Is all money business. If you
have intelligence you can understand it, that it’s all money. You cannot purchase it.
How much money did you give to Christ? How much money did you give to Krishna or to Rama,
or to any one of them? Those people whom you can purchase are your servants; they cannot
be your gurus. [Seeker: I was in Siddha Yoga for seven years
and I have a lot of problems.] You will, but I know that, I’ll manage that.
It’s very difficult, but I’ll manage. I know, with all these yogas you get nothing
but trouble. I know that. [Seeker: I tend to get very sleepy and tired,
and meditation makes me even sleepier.] I know. I know that. I’ll help you, don’t
you worry. I’ll help you, all right? Definitely. I know this is not only your case, it’s
so many. But in Australia he was so popular. I don’t know why he was so popular here.
You are supposed to be much more intelligent than normal people! Aren’t you? [Question: What are Your views on eating meat,
as opposed to vegetarianism?] You see, we, in Sahaja Yoga we treat a person
according to his needs. Supposing you need proteins, you have to have proteins. Supposing
you need more carbohydrates, so you have to have carbohydrates. It’s a balancing thing.
By eating meat or anything – like you think, if you save some chickens, can I give them
realization? Simple question. So we are paying too much attention to all nonsensical things.
What you have to think, what we are human beings on top of everything. Of course, some
people don’t have to eat meat because they have problems; but some people have to eat
meat because they have problems. We have to be logical about everything. These are all fads, or “isms”. These are
fads: don’t do this, wear this kind of a dress, go on the street and sing “Hare Rama,
Hare Krishna” or do another nonsensical thing, or jump here. These are all fads and
fashions. The fashion started that you should put a tin on your head and tie up your hair,
bouffant or something. Everybody started doing that. We must have our individuality, we should
have our personality. How can we accept anything that comes in the way? And these entrepreneurs
are playing with you, so these gurus also play with you. We should be alert now – we
have already suffered a lot, haven’t we? [Question: What’s Your opinion of Swami
Muktananda?] Ah. Better not ask! You know, I have got just
now a complete file on him, from America they have published: he’s such a horrible man.
If you want you can read it, but I assure you will not be able to eat food for at least
eight days. He had relations with even thirteen-year-old girls. What are you asking about a swami like
that? Useless fellow! [Question: Sai Baba?] Another horrible person. He is giving you
diamonds. Who has given diamonds to others? Who wants diamonds? From where does he get
diamonds? You know that very well. He gets even Swiss watches. People are so stupid!
You are talking of spirituality and of God, not of these mundane things. If you want you
can go in the market and get a diamond; even if you don’t get, doesn’t matter. Those
who have it or have not, nothing wrong with them. Look at his, their faces, how they look. I tell you, how can you be enamored by these
things? You always talk of materialism, you talk against it and then you get enamored
by these people because they are in America. When I went there in Boston – can you imagine,
Americans are the best for this – so that they asked Me, “How many Rolls-Royces You
have?” I said, “I have none.” They said, “Then we are not interested in
You.” Can you imagine? If you are going to impress by these things you are not going
to get to the real thing – is definite. These all things can be bought by money, but
you cannot buy reality with money. Take it from Me, you cannot. It has to happen – is
a fact. I am telling you the truth, whether you like it or not. [Question: Is there an energy field that is
built up by raising the kundalini en masse, and does it spill over into another area?] I think, you see, before describing it you’d
better feel it. All right? What’s the use of describing the beautiful Australia unless
and until you visit it? Better feel it yourself and then you will know. All right? Yes? [Question from seeker about kundalini raising
giving her headaches.] She’s a … With whom did she do this kundalini
awakening? Do you know? …. Ah, must be somebody like that. You see, kundalini is your mother,
all right, and she is anxious to give you a second birth. She works it out herself,
beautifully, like your mother gave you the birth without giving you any trouble. That’s
how she works it out. But if you go to a person who’s not authorized spiritually, they do
all these things. I have not seen, but – now as they must have told you that we are working
in about fifty-four nations, and I must have visited at least forty-five of them – I
have never seen anybody suffering because of kundalini awakening. On the contrary, feeling
very much better. This is what it is. You must see first of all when you go to somebody:
what about the disciples, how are they? How are they behaving? Are they beautiful people?
Have they achieved anything, have they got anything? And also you must see the life of
the so-called guru. How does he live? Where is his interest? But headlong if you fall
into something you are going to suffer, isn’t it? Now I’ve been coming to Australia for
the last, how many, from the year ’78 I think, ’77 or ’78; but I saw all the people
were scattered around these people, not around Me. They all like them, all such kinds. They
wouldn’t come to Me. Even some people advised Me that “You’d better charge some money.” I said, “How much will you pay? Tell Me.”
This is invaluable – you can’t pay for it. [Question: Could You suggest anything that
would help her, now that she’s in that situation, please?] Help! Doesn’t matter, we have people there
also. You give us her address, we’ll find out for her. Australia and Iceland’s quite
close, isn’t it! But sweet of you to remember her. [Question: When she meditates she feels the
kundalini rising, but suddenly it drops down again. How does she keep it up?] You have been in Sahaja Yoga? Did you get
your realization through Sahaja Yoga? You see, we do not take responsibility of people
who have been to other places, but if you have been in Sahaja Yoga then we can find
out why it is happening. If you have got your realization through Sahaja Yoga we know, and
we can help you very much better. All right? Then it’s our responsibility. It does happen
sometimes because if you have problems in your brain, or maybe in your body there is
some disease where the kundalini wants to help, may be happening, but it can be expedited,
it can be cleared out. These are all the problems which can be solved. You should have patience
with yourself, that’s all. [Question: Could You explain levels of samadhi
and nirvana?] Ah? Nirvana? …. It’s too early to talk
about it, but first you get your samadhi, all right, step by step, step by step. Nirvana
is the same as samadhi is, but in nirvana state the, it’s the highest that you can
achieve in spirituality. All right? So it’s step by step we have to move. We can say it
is the beginning of nirvana and then you have to be working it out and you go to nirvana
itself, into the complete state. But one thing is definite there, that we have to understand
that these words we have read from some books and the connotation of them, it could be very,
very wrong, could be very, very misunderstood. So whatever is the reality you should face
it as reality, you should see it as reality: not to have any concept about it, because
if you have a concept then may be that it might be wrong. So it’s better to see for
yourself. All right? [Question: Is it possible for the kundalini
to be raised prematurely, or does it just rise in its own time?] Prematurely? This is … [Question: Is it dangerous? – there are
lots of written warnings that kundalini can be dangerous?] No, there is no danger at all in kundalini
awakening at all. As I have told you just now, she’s your mother. There’s no danger.
But people must have warnings because they don’t want you to get realization, perhaps.
One might have warned because they must have put their hands into some sort of a burning
fire, thinking it is the kundalini. So that must be the reason. So far, we have had thousands
and thousands and thousands of people: nobody has felt anything bad. After all, when you
became a human being, what was the danger in becoming human being from a monkey stage?
Did you feel the cutting of your tail even? So after all, you are made a human being for
a purpose, and that purpose is to make you the higher being. How can it be troublesome?
It is so vitally important. Why should it be troublesome to you? Use logic. If that
is the last breakthrough of your evolution, it has to work spontaneously and easily. Now, so there’s one more gentleman but now
this is the last, all right? What is the question? Can you get up, please? We can’t even see
you. Thank you. [Question: Does Self-realization have to take
place in this life or if you believe in reincarnation, does it take place over a longer period?] Some people are realized in last life, I know.
They are born as realized souls also, I know. But I know one thing, that they don’t know
all about it – partly they know. They have to know all about it. They have to know all
about their powers. They have to know how to raise the kundalini. They have to know
what is missing in their realization. All that they have to know. All right. So now, very simple thing we have
to do, raise …. As you know, we have to use the force of the Mother Earth very much.
For that we have to take out our shoes for a very short time. Those who are sitting on
the ground just have to take out shoes, that’s all, and sit comfortably. We have the left and the right, two sides,
left and right sympathetic nervous system. The left caters to our emotional side, and
the right to our physical and our mental side. So we put both our feet apart from each other
– but those who are sitting on the ground are all right, no problem – those who are
not sitting on the ground. They can sit comfortably there, just folded. Just sit whichever way
you like, folded is better. Be comfortable is the point. Before we start anything else, there are two
conditions which you have to fulfill. The first one is that you have to know that you
are a human being, and you have to be confident that you will get your realization and that
it is your right to get your Self-realization. You are not to feel guilty about whatever
has happened in the past, because the divine love is the ocean of forgiveness, and whatever
mistakes you might have committed can be easily dissolved by that ocean of forgiveness. You must have faith in the power of that ocean.
After all, you are a human being, you are not God, and if you have done any mistakes
it’s all right. So don’t feel guilty, don’t condemn yourselves. Those who have
told you “you are sinners,” you should know they must be the greatest sinners to
say that. Nobody has business to say that to anyone. So please have full confidence
in yourself, and not to feel guilty. When you feel guilty, then this center here on
the back side there catches on, on the left side, and this gives you horrible diseases
like angina, lethargic organs and also spondylitis. So why to feel guilty for nothing at all?
If you think you have done mistakes, forget it just now. Second condition is that you have to forgive
everyone in general. You don’t have to think about people whom you want to forgive. Whether
you forgive or don’t forgive, you don’t do anything. Again, logically you don’t
do anything – it’s just a myth; but if you don’t forgive then you play into wrong
hands, in the sense those who wanted to torture you or trouble you, they are quite happy,
but you are suffering mentally. So the best thing is to forgive everyone in general, not
even thinking about any individual whatsoever. This is a very, very important condition.
Every time I have seen everywhere that people just don’t forgive, and I have to work hard
on them. So best is, to make My situation better and to make the whole thing work out
faster, please, for My sake forgive everyone, everyone. These are the two conditions. That’s
all. (… You know, I don’t need that now. Too
… ) Now please put your left hand towards Me,
and right hand on your heart. The spirit is residing in your heart. Left hand on your
lap, just on your lap please, comfortably. Now. Now we are working only on the left-hand
side with right hand, because right hand is for action and left hand is for desire. So
when you put the left hand towards Me, you are desiring to have your Self-realization;
and with the right hand you are nourishing your centers, yourself raising your own kundalini. Now take down your right hand in the upper
portion of your abdomen on the left-hand side. This is the center which all the prophets
have created for us, all the great masters have created for our mastery: mastery over
the divine work, divine laws. Now we take down our hand in the lower portion of our
abdomen on the left-hand side. This is the center of pure knowledge. This knowledge manifests
on your central nervous system. This is what is called is “bodh” from where the word
“Buddha” has come, or “Ved” from the word “vida” – meaning “feeling on
your central nervous system.” As the Gnostic: “gn” means “to know.” “Know” doesn’t
mean mentally, but to know on your central nervous system. That’s the pure knowledge. Now you raise your right hand in the upper
portion of your abdomen and press it hard, on the left-hand side. Again you take your
hand onto your heart. Now please put your right hand in the corner of your neck and
your shoulder, and turn your head to your right. This is the center I’ve told you
already is in trouble when you feel guilty. Now please take your right hand on to your
forehead across, and put down your head as far as possible. This is the center where
you have to forgive everyone in general. Now take back this right hand on the back side
of your head, and push back your head. Push back your head as far as possible. Here, without
feeling guilty, without counting your mistakes, you have to say, “Oh divine Power, please
forgive me if I have done anything wrong, knowingly or unknowingly.” That I’ll tell
you later on; just now I’m telling you the position. Now stretch your palm fully. Put the center
of your palm on top of the fontanel bone area here. And now press it hard. Press down your
head. Press it hard, push back your fingers and start moving your scalp with the pressure,
seven times clockwise. This is important. Push back your fingers. Put down your head
fully and now go on moving your scalp seven times clockwise, very slowly. Now take down
your hands. Now you have to close your eyes. Before that
you can take out your spectacles, because you are not to open your eyes till I tell
you; this might help your eyesight. Now please remember to put your feet on, away from each
other a little bit. If there’s anything tight on your neck or on your waist, you can
loosen it a little bit. Now put your right hand on your heart. Here
you ask Me a very fundamental question – you can call Me “Shri Mataji” or “Mother”,
whatever you like – “Mother, am I the spirit? Mother, am I the spirit?” Ask this
in your heart three times. If you are the spirit then you become your
own master, because in the light of the spirit you see everything clearly. So now please
take your hand in the upper portion of your abdomen on the left-hand side, press it hard.
Here you have to say, again a question you have to ask Me, “Mother, am I my own master?”
Ask this question three times, “Mother, am I my own master?” Three times, in your
heart. As I told you, I respect your freedom and I cannot force pure knowledge on you,
so you have to ask for it. Take your right hand in the lower portion
of your abdomen on the left-hand side and here you say six times, because this center
has got six petals, “Mother, please give me self-knowledge” – or you can say “pure
knowledge” – “Mother, please give me pure knowledge.” Say it six times. Now, raise your right hand in the upper portion
of your abdomen on the left-hand side. As you have asked for pure knowledge, your kundalini
has started moving upward, so we have to nourish these upper centers with self-confidence.
So here you say ten times, “Mother, I am my own master.” Say it with full self-confidence,
ten times, “Mother, I am my own master.” I have already told you that the most important
truth about is that you are not this body, not mind, not your conditionings, your ego,
but you are pure spirit. So now raise your right hand on your heart and say here with
full confidence, twelve times, “Mother, I am the spirit.” Please say it twelve times. The divine Power is the ocean of knowledge,
is the ocean of love, joy and bliss, but above all it is the ocean of forgiveness. So whatever
mistakes you have committed can be easily dissolved by the power of this ocean of forgiveness.
So please forgive yourself and raise your right hand in the corner of your neck and
your shoulder, and turn your head to your right. Here with full confidence say sixteen
times, “Mother, I am not guilty at all.” Please say that, “Mother, I am not guilty
at all.” I have already told you, whether you forgive
or don’t forgive you don’t do anything, but if you don’t forgive then you play into
wrong hands. It’s a myth to know that you are not forgiving someone. It’s a myth.
So please raise your right hand on your forehead across, and please put down your head as far
as possible. And here with full confidence you have to say from your heart – not how
many times, from your heart – please say, it is very important, “Mother, I forgive
everyone.” Don’t say “I try” – just saying it, with full confidence, “Mother,
I forgive everyone in general.” Now, take back your hand on the back side
of your head. Push back your head as far as possible. Here we have to say, without feeling
guilty, without counting your mistakes; just for your satisfaction, from your heart, not
how many times, “Oh divine Power, if I have done any mistakes knowingly or unknowingly,
please forgive me.” Now stretch your right hand. Put the center
of your palm on the fontanel bone area which was a soft bone in your childhood. Now put
down your head as far as possible, put down. Push back your fingers. Here again I respect
your freedom. I cannot force Self-realization on you – you have to ask for it. So now
push back your fingers with the pressure; move your scalp seven times clockwise, saying
seven times, “Mother, please give me Self-realization.” [Shri Mataji blows into the microphone seven
times.] Now please take down your hand. (If you can
close the air-conditioning, they would feel it better.) Now please put, open your eyes
and put both the hands towards Me like this, like this. Now, put your right hand like this,
and don’t think – you can manage, now you don’t think. Put the right hand and
put down your head, and see with the left hand if there is a cool breeze – can you
get up and show them? – if there’s a cool breeze coming out of your fontanel bone area.
Now, please put the left hand away from your head, not on top – away, not very far; some
people get it far also – but just try to feel if there’s a cool breeze coming out
of your head. Now please put your left hand towards Me like this, like this. And now put
down your head, and now see for yourself if there’s a cool breeze coming out of your
head. (There is so much of cool breeze.) Now feel it with the right hand. Right hand towards
Me and left hand: you see it clearly, if there’s a cool breeze coming out of your head, the
fontanel bone area. You can move your hand a little bit up and down and see for yourself
on sideways. Now, raise both your hands towards the sky.
Push back your head and ask a question, “Mother, is this the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost?”
or ask, “Mother is this the all-pervading Power of divine love?” or “Mother, is
this the Paramachaitanya?” Ask any one of these questions three times, raising your
hands. Put down your hands, please. So much of breeze
already blowing all over! All those … it’s tremendous breeze already blowing all over.
It’s not air-conditioning, for your information. Now those who have felt the cool breeze out
of their fontanel bone area or on their hands or fingertips, please raise both your hands.
May God bless you. So many of you have felt it now. Some of you
have not felt, doesn’t matter. Tomorrow again we have a program, and I’ll explain
to you more about the nature of spirit and the nature of these centers. Please inform
your friends, everyone, to come, and tomorrow hopefully, I will meet all of you one by one.
Also those who have problems should write them on a piece of paper and their address,
and we’ll try to contact them and help them as far as possible. Thank you very much. Those who have not felt can come on this side
and the Sahaja yogis can work it out in five minutes, those who have not felt. Because
you did not forgive; I know you have not forgiven. If you had forgiven you would have felt it.
Come along, this side. Just five minutes and they’ll give you realization. You felt it?
Ha, good. Your problems will be solved now, it’s good. You felt it? …. Which hand
you felt? Left you felt, not the right? …. Doesn’t matter. We’ll work it out. It’s good.
Surprising! …. First of all, see on their heads are you feeling it or not; just see
it. They might be saying they are not feeling it because of Vishuddhi. …. Yes, yes, do. [Seeker asks about her chronic low energy,
and the Hatha Yoga she has been doing.] You know, you see this modern Hatha Yoga is
most unscientific. It is just done like all the medicines you take from the medicine box,
without knowing what you need really. So you give up that and come to Sahaja Yoga and know
what’s wrong with you, and fill yourself with energy, all right? Is all nonsense. It’s
all nonsense. It has given heart attacks to people, heart attacks. It’s the way they
go about it. We also do a little bit of Hatha Yoga, but wherever it is necessary; it’s
not like mad, doing all the time there. Now you have a catch on this one, you have a catch
on there. Two centers are very badly caught up. So you’d better come to Sahaja Yoga,
all right, and fix yourself up, because Hatha Yoga nobody reaches God, that’s true. But this Hatha Yoga is very limited: a wee
bit of it. You see, Patanjali wrote “Ashtanga Yoga” out of which this Hatha Yoga that
you do is one-eighth of one of them. And that to be is understood with the guidance of the
kundalini: where is the kundalini stopping? Whatever center it is stopping, that is the
one you have to look after. And that is the one you have to do that particular asana for
that particular thing – not all of them like that mad. All right? So …. You cannot
do it unless and until you start your kundalini. Once you start your kundalini, you will know
where the problem is. It’s like if your car has started then you will know where is
the problem is, isn’t it? It’s like that. May God bless you. So now, how are you? Your sister? You are
all right now? She’s in Iceland. You give her address to us, we’ll contact her. All
right. What is she, now? Iceland? …. What’s the matter with her? …. You see, they will
tell …. You come and see Me, and take the photograph .… And then you send My photograph,
and tell her to put both her hands towards the photograph and both her feet in the water with salt every night …. Both
the hands to the photograph, and both the feet in the water …. All right? But first you master this. You felt the cool breeze? [Seeker says he wasn’t sure if it was cool
or not.] Better forgive. You have to forgive …. you
don’t forgive. How can I forgive for you? You have to forgive yourself, forgive everyone.
I can’t forgive for you. [Seeker asks where Shri Mataji lives in India.] For practical purposes I live in London.

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