Virgin Birth – Talking to Mormons

Virgin Birth – Talking to Mormons


Ava
Is it true that Mormons believe Jesus was literally the physical offspring of Mary and
God? Elder Young
We believe that Jesus is meaning that He was the literal “offspring” of Father in Heaven and Mary. They are Jesus’ physical parents – one
being his immortal Father and the other his mortal mother. Ava
That becomes a little problematic, as it would change Mary’s status as a virgin. Are you saying that God, as a resurrected,
physical man, literally had intercourse with Mary to procreate Jesus as his son in the
flesh? That’s kind of a crude way of stating it
but in, essence that is what our leaders have taught. Ava
In other words, Mormonism denies that Jesus was “begotten” by the Holy Ghost. Elder Young
That’s right. Prophet Brigham Young taught – Ava
Considering how Mormonism teaches that every human born on earth is a literal child of
God, the previous quote becomes even more disconcerting. Elder Smith
How so? Ava
Mormon leaders have maintained that all humans, Mary included, If the LDS leaders are telling the truth when
they say that God physically impregnated Mary, then I have to assume that the Jesus of Mormonism
was created through an incestuous relationship. Elder Smith
Then what is your viewpoint on Jesus’ conception? Ava
My view of Christ’s origin is radically different from the Mormon teaching. As Christians we believe what the Bible teaches
– that the Son of God, Jesus Christ, became a mortal by being conceived in the womb of
the virgin Mary by the miraculous creative power of the Holy Spirit. This event is accurately recorded in two separate
gospels. Will you read, Matthew, chapter 1, verse 18? Elder Smith
Sure! Ava
Now, please read, Luke 1: 34 and 35. Ava
Either you believe what Mormon leaders teach, or you believe what God has spoken through
His Word, the Bible. Both can’t be right. Elder Young
Because we believe in modern prophets – whatever our leaders teach is current light and knowledge
on this doctrine. Ava
Are you saying that current doctrine taught by your leaders overrides even the Book of
Mormon? Ava
Read, Alma 7: 10. Elder Smith
Ok. Ava
The Book of Mormon is wrong about where Christ was born. But it is right about the role of the Holy
Ghost. I ask you – Who then is correct regarding
Christ’s conception – Your modern-day prophets, or the Book of Mormon prophets? Once again, both can’t be right!

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10 Comments

  1. I'd like some confirmation by Shawn or whoever was a Mormon whether this was taught, and when its teaching was discontinued. This is not being promoted in Mormon circles today, and for good reason – Christians of all stripes would find this highly offensive , including those from mainline or liberal denominations.

  2. Boy, they hate it when you put it that way cuz…that's just creepy! But sure both are right, if either was wrong then they've been lead astray, and they would never be allowed to lead you astray. They're leaders say so.

  3. Your not being honest and are being deceitful This is not the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day saints doctrine.We are not taught That Father had sex with Mary.

  4. If Heavenly Father wasn't sealed to Mary in the temple before he had sex with her, then they're guilty of adultery too.

  5. SEXUAL RELATIONS.
    were permissible outside of
    legalized marital relationships,
    ON CONDITION
    that the relations
    REMAINED SECRET.
    #21 Joseph Smith, Journal, May 19, 24, and 26, 1842; June 4, 1842, available at josephsmithpapers.org. Proponents of “spiritual wifery” taught that
    SEXUAL RELATIONS.
    were permissible outside of
    legalized marital relationships,
    ON CONDITION
    that the relations
    REMAINED SECRET.
    In the denials, “polygamy” was understood to mean the marriage of one man to MORE than one woman
    but without Church sanction.

    #22 In the denials, “polygamy” was understood to mean the marriage of one man to more
    than one woman but without Church sanction.

    #23 1845,  George A. Smith explained, “Any one who will read
    CAREFULLY
    the denials, as they are termed, of plurality of wives in connection with the circumstances will see
    WHY CLEARLY
    that they
    DENOUNCE ADULTERY,
    fornication, brutal lust and the teaching of plurality of wives by those who were not commanded to do so.

    Church. 21 footnot The rumors prompted members and leaders to issue carefully worded denials that denounced spiritual wifery and polygamy but were SILENT about what Joseph Smith and others saw as divinely mandated “celestial” plural marriage.22  footnote The statements emphasized that the Church practiced no marital law other than monogamy while implicitly leaving OPEN the possibility that individuals, under direction of
    God’s living prophet, might do so.23  footnote

    https://www.lds.org/topics/plural-marriage-in-kirtland-and-nauvoo?lang=eng#21

  6. When Mormons teach about the Virgin Birth of Jesus, they do not mean the same thing we do as Christians and they know this. According to Mormonism, God the Father, who has a body of flesh and bones (since he was a man), came to earth and had a physical sex with Mary, his own daughter and begot Jesus' physical body. (Doctrine and Covenants, 130:22; McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 471)

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